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Cockroach Boy

Joined: 29 Dec 2005 Posts: 7143 Location: Dancing with the Mara
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 3:40 pm Post subject: Was it all for nothing? |
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Did Blake and his fellow fighters actually achieve anything ? At the beginning of the series, the Federation controls large sections of the galaxy with drug induced dreams and terror methods to keep the locals in line. At the end they are well on their way to doing the same.
Humanity is condemned to live under the yolk of the Federation until the inevitable drive of social and technological entropy leads to the Links. The only societies that tried to seperate themselves from the nightmares around them - principally Auron and Obsidian - have been exterminated. Even the comparatively civilised clone masters are gone. There is no Way Back. Only a Death Watch over a Terminal future.
I know next to nothing about poetry, but I read a quote somewhere that goes something like 'The centre cannot hold. Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world' Is that a fitting epitapf for Blake's 7?
Did the rebellion achieveanything? Or would true freedom only have been attainable by a breakaway group like the Space Rats? |
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BlakNo1

Joined: 16 May 2004 Posts: 7695 Location: Somerville, MA, USA
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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Keep in mind that, as far as we know(PGP fanfic notwithstanding), Blake and his crew are now martyrs. Legends like that never die.
You can kill people, but you can't kill ideas. _________________ "Blak" sheep of the B7 forum family! |
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Janov Seldon

Joined: 16 May 2004 Posts: 1687 Location: There - but I like it here
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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Orwell's O'Brien would disagree with you there. _________________ "Now then, Butch Harry, tell us about Fulham..." |
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Joined: 30 May 2004 Posts: 922 Location: Merseyside
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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How many people died due to the chaos caused by the destruction of Star One .What planets were lost in the aftermath, no medical supplies no food suppliments Blake never considered the result of his actions. |
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Janov Seldon

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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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Blake was a gambler. Initially he wanted to purge the system ofhe corrupt elements, then change the system and finally destroy it. Unfortunately, he couldn't, because he was a part of that same system. If anything, he made it worse. _________________ "Now then, Butch Harry, tell us about Fulham..." |
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Cockroach Boy

Joined: 29 Dec 2005 Posts: 7143 Location: Dancing with the Mara
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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Janov Seldon wrote: |
Orwell's O'Brien would disagree with you there. |
Excellent point Janov. Considering the obvious influence of Orwell on The Way Back, perhaps the end of the series was always inevitable? |
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Janov Seldon

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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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There was an excellent article in an issue of DWB many years back on the subject. Really should dig out all the relevant Blake's 7 articles because they should be posted on the net. _________________ "Now then, Butch Harry, tell us about Fulham..." |
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hobgoblin
Joined: 26 Apr 2005 Posts: 819 Location: Brisbane, QLD
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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It occurs to me that it would have been a better tactic for Blake to let Avon pursue his goal. By "undermining confidence in the entire Federation banking system" he could have hastened the end of the administration more quickly than Blake's insurgency. |
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BlakNo1

Joined: 16 May 2004 Posts: 7695 Location: Somerville, MA, USA
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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hobgoblin wrote: |
It occurs to me that it would have been a better tactic for Blake to let Avon pursue his goal. By "undermining confidence in the entire Federation banking system" he could have hastened the end of the administration more quickly than Blake's insurgency. |
Yep, seeing as that's how The US will end up going down, I'd say it would be apt. _________________ "Blak" sheep of the B7 forum family! |
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Janov Seldon

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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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There's a PGP by Roz Williams where Cally is resurected and Avon does just that. I think it's in one of the Avon club fanzines but I can't remember which one. _________________ "Now then, Butch Harry, tell us about Fulham..." |
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Janov Seldon

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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 3:58 am Post subject: |
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It's in Avon 8, entitled Dependency.
The zine is still available from the Avon Fan club. Their website is at:
http://www.avon-paul-darrow.co.uk/ _________________ "Now then, Butch Harry, tell us about Fulham..." |
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inge

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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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BlakNo1 said:
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Yep, seeing as that's how The US will end up going down, I'd say it would be apt.
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And probably take Australia with it, seeing that John Howard is determined to make Australia into little America.
New anti-terrorism laws
New industrial relations laws
An identity card proposal
What next? |
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hobgoblin
Joined: 26 Apr 2005 Posts: 819 Location: Brisbane, QLD
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 3:16 am Post subject: |
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Sadly, I have to aggree with you, Inge. Despite the war, the corruption, the erosion of freedoms and now the AWB scandal, Australians are still too apathetic to care. The only time they were remotely roused ws due to industrial relations, because it directly hurt their wallets. |
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Janov Seldon

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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:43 am Post subject: |
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Much the same here. Why worry about losing your freedoms when you've got a shiny new mobile phone and Big Brother is on the telly.
Stupid (censored) _________________ "Now then, Butch Harry, tell us about Fulham..." |
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Cockroach Boy

Joined: 29 Dec 2005 Posts: 7143 Location: Dancing with the Mara
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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Janov Seldon wrote: |
Much the same here. Why worry about losing your freedoms when you've got a shiny new mobile phone and Big Brother is on the telly.
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I agree. The media just tells the public which randomly chosen minority group they should blame for their ills (gypsies, gays, the young, immigrants, artists, take your pick really) and no-one stops to question that the capitalist system itself is full of corruption, that maybe we don't need leaders to tell us what to think.
The world is being screwed, but the English middle classes are too busy trying to ensure that anyone that deviates from their narrow little world view is demonised as a deviant to even notice. |
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